8-8-09 **Consult but don’t actually listen** Question on Ectopic Pregnancies CONSULT YOUR DOCTOR

Here is what he had in the sidebar…

AN ECTOPIC PREGNANCY IS SERIOUS: CONSULT YOUR DOCTOR.Answering The Question for DprJones http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD4jWC…
http://www.essortment.com/all/ectopic…
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24888923/… an ectopic pregnancy the beginning of life starts outside of the uterus. Because most ectopic pregnancies develop inside the fallopian tubes, most people refer to them as tubal pregnancies. Ectopic pregnancies cannot develop normally, only the uterus contains the space and nutrient rich tissues that are required to nurture a fetus. One other location an ectopic pregnancy can occur is in the ovary itself. Because the ovaries and fallopian tubes are so narrow, a developing pregnancy can cause a rupture. A ruptured tube can produce severe bleeding and can be life threatening. An ectopic pregnancy can occur anywhere in the pelvic area.

It is estimated that 1 in every 200 pregnancies results in an ectopic pregnancy. Once you have experienced an ectopic pregnancy, if you conceive again you have a 10-15% greater risk of having another. Approximately 30% of women who have had an ectopic pregnancy will have difficulty getting pregnant again. There is no clear reason for ectopic pregnancies. If you develop one, there is a great chance that you have some sort of scarring within your uterus or fallopian tubes. This may have been caused by infection, a previous ectopic pregnancy, the use of an IUD or as a result of your mother taking (DES) Diethylstilbestrol during your own fetal development. If you became pregnant while using an IUD or if you had surgery on your fallopian tubes in the past, such as a tubal ligation, you may be at a higher risk for an ectopic pregnancy.
Jan 25, ‘06, 8:41 am

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Re: Abortion And Ectopic Pregnancy

Originally Posted by CherDash
Hi,
I was on a message board, and the subject of abortion came up. Someone posted that the Church is against abortion in all cases, and specifically mentioned even in the event of an ectopic pregnancy. I believe they are misinformed. In the case of an ectopic pregnancy, there’s no chance for the baby, and the mother’s life is endangered. Since the Church believes in the sanctity of human life, I don’t believe the Church is OK with a woman dying when her life can be saved and there is no way the baby can survive. Also, I was wondering about anencephaly and abortion. The mom’s life is not in danger usually in this situation, but the baby is either stillborn or dies shortly after birth. What is the Church’s stance on this? Also, is there any other scenario where the Church would not object to abortion? I would appreciate any input. Thank you.
I just had an ectopic pregnancy that thankfully resolved itself without my needing surgery. These are the options my supposedly pro-life doctor gave me (keep in mind that I was not in immediate danger of bleeding out, unlike many women who present with ectopic pregnancy) :

1) Wait it out– since I wasn’t in immediate danger, I had the option of resting and waiting to see if the miscarriage would progress naturally on its own, and my body would then heal itself. I had strict instructions to come to the ER immediately, should I have any symptoms of dangerous levels of internal bleeding.

2) Go ahead and do surgery to remove the tube (or part of it), to avoid putting your life in possible danger, sort of like a preemptive strike

3) Take the methotrexate

Of these three, in my case, the only moral choice was waiting it out. The second choice would only be morally acceptable if I was in immediate and certain danger of bleeding out without surgery (I wasn’t, praised be to Jesus). The third choice is never acceptable, for reasons already stated by other posters.

I had regular blood tests to make sure my blood count never dipped, and to test my pregnancy hormone levels to make sure I was really having a miscarriage (the doc wanted to be certain the baby hadn’t implanted on an organ outside my uterus and continued to grow, for instance).

So, contrary to what a lot of people may think, it is possible to avoid an abortion even the case of ectopic pregnancy. Intentional abortion is NEVER acceptable, a direct attack on the baby is NEVER acceptable. Also, I think I am correct in stating that by the time the surgery becomes necessary to save the mother, the tube itself has already ruptured (therefore causing the excessive bleeding), and this most always itself causes the death of the baby. If someone knows better, please correct me!

Hope this helps

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Question on Ectopic Pregnancies (CONSULT YOUR DOCTOR)

AN ECTOPIC PREGNANCY IS SERIOUS: CONSULT YOUR DOCTOR.Answering The Question for DprJones http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD4jWC…
http://www.essortment.com/all/ectopic…
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24888923/… an ectopic pregnancy the beginning of life starts outside of the uterus. Because most ectopic pregnancies develop inside the fallopian tubes, most people refer to them as tubal pregnancies. Ectopic pregnancies cannot develop normally, only the uterus contains the space and nutrient rich tissues that are required to nurture a fetus. One other location an ectopic pregnancy can occur is in the ovary itself. Because the ovaries and fallopian tubes are so narrow, a developing pregnancy can cause a rupture. A ruptured tube can produce severe bleeding and can be life threatening. An ectopic pregnancy can occur anywhere in the pelvic area.

It is estimated that 1 in every 200 pregnancies results in an ectopic pregnancy. Once you have experienced an ectopic pregnancy, if you conceive again you have a 10-15% greater risk of having another. Approximately 30% of women who have had an ectopic pregnancy will have difficulty getting pregnant again. There is no clear reason for ectopic pregnancies. If you develop one, there is a great chance that you have some sort of scarring within your uterus or fallopian tubes. This may have been caused by infection, a previous ectopic pregnancy, the use of an IUD or as a result of your mother taking (DES) Diethylstilbestrol during your own fetal development. If you became pregnant while using an IUD or if you had surgery on your fallopian tubes in the past, such as a tubal ligation, you may be at a higher risk for an ectopic pregnancy.
Jan 25, ‘06, 8:41 am

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Religion: Cradle Catholic
Re: Abortion And Ectopic Pregnancy

Originally Posted by CherDash
Hi,
I was on a message board, and the subject of abortion came up. Someone posted that the Church is against abortion in all cases, and specifically mentioned even in the event of an ectopic pregnancy. I believe they are misinformed. In the case of an ectopic pregnancy, there’s no chance for the baby, and the mother’s life is endangered. Since the Church believes in the sanctity of human life, I don’t believe the Church is OK with a woman dying when her life can be saved and there is no way the baby can survive. Also, I was wondering about anencephaly and abortion. The mom’s life is not in danger usually in this situation, but the baby is either stillborn or dies shortly after birth. What is the Church’s stance on this? Also, is there any other scenario where the Church would not object to abortion? I would appreciate any input. Thank you.
I just had an ectopic pregnancy that thankfully resolved itself without my needing surgery. These are the options my supposedly pro-life doctor gave me (keep in mind that I was not in immediate danger of bleeding out, unlike many women who present with ectopic pregnancy) :

1) Wait it out– since I wasn’t in immediate danger, I had the option of resting and waiting to see if the miscarriage would progress naturally on its own, and my body would then heal itself. I had strict instructions to come to the ER immediately, should I have any symptoms of dangerous levels of internal bleeding.

2) Go ahead and do surgery to remove the tube (or part of it), to avoid putting your life in possible danger, sort of like a preemptive strike

3) Take the methotrexate

Of these three, in my case, the only moral choice was waiting it out. The second choice would only be morally acceptable if I was in immediate and certain danger of bleeding out without surgery (I wasn’t, praised be to Jesus). The third choice is never acceptable, for reasons already stated by other posters.

I had regular blood tests to make sure my blood count never dipped, and to test my pregnancy hormone levels to make sure I was really having a miscarriage (the doc wanted to be certain the baby hadn’t implanted on an organ outside my uterus and continued to grow, for instance).

So, contrary to what a lot of people may think, it is possible to avoid an abortion even the case of ectopic pregnancy. Intentional abortion is NEVER acceptable, a direct attack on the baby is NEVER acceptable. Also, I think I am correct in stating that by the time the surgery becomes necessary to save the mother, the tube itself has already ruptured (therefore causing the excessive bleeding), and this most always itself causes the death of the baby. If someone knows better, please correct me!

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Re: Answering The Question Of Ectopic Pregnancies.

In response to
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8281iVEnOhY

FLAG THE VIDEO ABOVE for DANGEROUS ACT ( Link above)

He is advising women to NOT have a life saving procedure and to wait for their fallopian tube to burst which causes internal bleeding and leading to death of the mother.

Ugh stupid video is out of synch… just listen.
Disgusting video.

Can’t believe it.

Waiting it out is a HORRIBLE idea. That is when the fallopian tube can burst causing death. Most women who have an ectopic pregnancy don’t even KNOW that they have one until they are in trouble. These occur in the first trimester early on.

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Answering The Question Of Ectopic Pregnancies.

Answering The Question for DprJones http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD4jWCeKMDg
http://www.essortment.com/all/ectopicpregnanc_rjdc.htm
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24888923/With an ectopic pregnancy the beginning of life starts outside of the uterus. Because most ectopic pregnancies develop inside the fallopian tubes, most people refer to them as tubal pregnancies. Ectopic pregnancies cannot develop normally, only the uterus contains the space and nutrient rich tissues that are required to nurture a fetus. One other location an ectopic pregnancy can occur is in the ovary itself. Because the ovaries and fallopian tubes are so narrow, a developing pregnancy can cause a rupture. A ruptured tube can produce severe bleeding and can be life threatening. An ectopic pregnancy can occur anywhere in the pelvic area.

It is estimated that 1 in every 200 pregnancies results in an ectopic pregnancy. Once you have experienced an ectopic pregnancy, if you conceive again you have a 10-15% greater risk of having another. Approximately 30% of women who have had an ectopic pregnancy will have difficulty getting pregnant again. There is no clear reason for ectopic pregnancies. If you develop one, there is a great chance that you have some sort of scarring within your uterus or fallopian tubes. This may have been caused by infection, a previous ectopic pregnancy, the use of an IUD or as a result of your mother taking (DES) Diethylstilbestrol during your own fetal development. If you became pregnant while using an IUD or if you had surgery on your fallopian tubes in the past, such as a tubal ligation, you may be at a higher risk for an ectopic pregnancy.
Jan 25, ‘06, 8:41 am

Posts: 689
Religion: Cradle Catholic
Re: Abortion And Ectopic Pregnancy

Originally Posted by CherDash
Hi,
I was on a message board, and the subject of abortion came up. Someone posted that the Church is against abortion in all cases, and specifically mentioned even in the event of an ectopic pregnancy. I believe they are misinformed. In the case of an ectopic pregnancy, there’s no chance for the baby, and the mother’s life is endangered. Since the Church believes in the sanctity of human life, I don’t believe the Church is OK with a woman dying when her life can be saved and there is no way the baby can survive. Also, I was wondering about anencephaly and abortion. The mom’s life is not in danger usually in this situation, but the baby is either stillborn or dies shortly after birth. What is the Church’s stance on this? Also, is there any other scenario where the Church would not object to abortion? I would appreciate any input. Thank you.
I just had an ectopic pregnancy that thankfully resolved itself without my needing surgery. These are the options my supposedly pro-life doctor gave me (keep in mind that I was not in immediate danger of bleeding out, unlike many women who present with ectopic pregnancy) :

1) Wait it out– since I wasn’t in immediate danger, I had the option of resting and waiting to see if the miscarriage would progress naturally on its own, and my body would then heal itself. I had strict instructions to come to the ER immediately, should I have any symptoms of dangerous levels of internal bleeding.

2) Go ahead and do surgery to remove the tube (or part of it), to avoid putting your life in possible danger, sort of like a preemptive strike

3) Take the methotrexate

Of these three, in my case, the only moral choice was waiting it out. The second choice would only be morally acceptable if I was in immediate and certain danger of bleeding out without surgery (I wasn’t, praised be to Jesus). The third choice is never acceptable, for reasons already stated by other posters.

I had regular blood tests to make sure my blood count never dipped, and to test my pregnancy hormone levels to make sure I was really having a miscarriage (the doc wanted to be certain the baby hadn’t implanted on an organ outside my uterus and continued to grow, for instance).

So, contrary to what a lot of people may think, it is possible to avoid an abortion even the case of ectopic pregnancy. Intentional abortion is NEVER acceptable, a direct attack on the baby is NEVER acceptable. Also, I think I am correct in stating that by the time the surgery becomes necessary to save the mother, the tube itself has already ruptured (therefore causing the excessive bleeding), and this most always itself causes the death of the baby. If someone knows better, please correct me!

Hope this helps.

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MTP ABORTION - VIBHA - THE FAMILY HOSPITAL - Mumbai - India.

Abortion - Medical termination of Pregnancy-MTP- A Female Perspective. Abortion clinic for safe and confidential abortion at Mumbai India.

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Suction & Curettage Abortion Illustrated / Educational Video

Suction & Curettage Abortion of a 9 Week Fetus Illustrated. Credits at the end of the video. Images from Nucleus Communications, Inc. All text from Fair Use. Suction & Curettage Abortion of a 9 Week Fetus Illustrated. The Suction Aspiration abortion procedure, also known as Vacuum Aspiration, is the most commonly used between 7 and 15 weeks from the last period. A speculum is placed in the vagina, a tenaculum is clamped to the lip of the cervix and a cannula is inserted into the uterus. The …

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Sanctity of life walk, Santa Fe New Mexico 2009

Sanctity of life walk, Santa Fe New Mexico 2009

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The difficult path to a beautiful gift from God

Jackie didn’t want to be pregnant, and she didn’t even want to see her child after he was born, but today her heart is grateful for the blessings he brought into her life. Featuring the song “I Believe I Can Fly.” (This was the first video we ever produced, back in 2002, so sorry that it is so rough. Hopefully we can clean it up sometime soon.)

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Is contraception safe?

Get the facts about contraception.

Some reference links:
Toxicity of lubricants:
http://www.health-report.co.uk/benzen…
N-nitrosamine in condoms:
http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,1220847,00.html
Condoms linked to preeclampsia (pregnancy complications):
http://groups.msn.com/Aidsisamyth/gen…
The pill causes abortions:
http://www.epm.org/articles/bcp5400.html

tpopton (6 months ago)
in addition to what is stated, i wanted to note research on females’ hormones and choosing a mate. studies reiterating these specific points are abundant - just Google “sweaty t-shirts,” “women” and “the pill”.

it seems the pill physically inhibits women’s ability to choose a proper mate. in fact, the opposite of natural inclinations is provoked when on the pill. the implications of this are vast, as it is clearly not genetically or emotionally desirable to court love under counter-intuition.

heituzi (5 days ago)
That indeed has profound implications. It seems as though the mental state of women on the pill would promote devolution of humankind in a very literal sense.

karmaboy008 (1 week ago)
I absolutely enjoy watching this. I’ve seen it many times. My mother found it to be very interesting. She, being from Afghanistan, never used any form of contraception, nor bras for that matter. This is your second video she agreed on (bra being first.) In Afghanistan, people strictly mate for procreation. This is one reason why it’s very common to see a married couple having 10-20 children naturally. My grandfather had 12 kids and lived 112 years. His wife is still alive and almost 100!

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Protecting Our Crisis Pregnancy Centers

Chris Slattery, President of Expectant Mother Care

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