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http://www.essortment.com/all/ectopicpregnanc_rjdc.htm
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24888923/With an ectopic pregnancy the beginning of life starts outside of the uterus. Because most ectopic pregnancies develop inside the fallopian tubes, most people refer to them as tubal pregnancies. Ectopic pregnancies cannot develop normally, only the uterus contains the space and nutrient rich tissues that are required to nurture a fetus. One other location an ectopic pregnancy can occur is in the ovary itself. Because the ovaries and fallopian tubes are so narrow, a developing pregnancy can cause a rupture. A ruptured tube can produce severe bleeding and can be life threatening. An ectopic pregnancy can occur anywhere in the pelvic area.
It is estimated that 1 in every 200 pregnancies results in an ectopic pregnancy. Once you have experienced an ectopic pregnancy, if you conceive again you have a 10-15% greater risk of having another. Approximately 30% of women who have had an ectopic pregnancy will have difficulty getting pregnant again. There is no clear reason for ectopic pregnancies. If you develop one, there is a great chance that you have some sort of scarring within your uterus or fallopian tubes. This may have been caused by infection, a previous ectopic pregnancy, the use of an IUD or as a result of your mother taking (DES) Diethylstilbestrol during your own fetal development. If you became pregnant while using an IUD or if you had surgery on your fallopian tubes in the past, such as a tubal ligation, you may be at a higher risk for an ectopic pregnancy.
Jan 25, ‘06, 8:41 am
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Re: Abortion And Ectopic Pregnancy
Originally Posted by CherDash
Hi,
I was on a message board, and the subject of abortion came up. Someone posted that the Church is against abortion in all cases, and specifically mentioned even in the event of an ectopic pregnancy. I believe they are misinformed. In the case of an ectopic pregnancy, there’s no chance for the baby, and the mother’s life is endangered. Since the Church believes in the sanctity of human life, I don’t believe the Church is OK with a woman dying when her life can be saved and there is no way the baby can survive. Also, I was wondering about anencephaly and abortion. The mom’s life is not in danger usually in this situation, but the baby is either stillborn or dies shortly after birth. What is the Church’s stance on this? Also, is there any other scenario where the Church would not object to abortion? I would appreciate any input. Thank you.
I just had an ectopic pregnancy that thankfully resolved itself without my needing surgery. These are the options my supposedly pro-life doctor gave me (keep in mind that I was not in immediate danger of bleeding out, unlike many women who present with ectopic pregnancy) :
1) Wait it out– since I wasn’t in immediate danger, I had the option of resting and waiting to see if the miscarriage would progress naturally on its own, and my body would then heal itself. I had strict instructions to come to the ER immediately, should I have any symptoms of dangerous levels of internal bleeding.
2) Go ahead and do surgery to remove the tube (or part of it), to avoid putting your life in possible danger, sort of like a preemptive strike
3) Take the methotrexate
Of these three, in my case, the only moral choice was waiting it out. The second choice would only be morally acceptable if I was in immediate and certain danger of bleeding out without surgery (I wasn’t, praised be to Jesus). The third choice is never acceptable, for reasons already stated by other posters.
I had regular blood tests to make sure my blood count never dipped, and to test my pregnancy hormone levels to make sure I was really having a miscarriage (the doc wanted to be certain the baby hadn’t implanted on an organ outside my uterus and continued to grow, for instance).
So, contrary to what a lot of people may think, it is possible to avoid an abortion even the case of ectopic pregnancy. Intentional abortion is NEVER acceptable, a direct attack on the baby is NEVER acceptable. Also, I think I am correct in stating that by the time the surgery becomes necessary to save the mother, the tube itself has already ruptured (therefore causing the excessive bleeding), and this most always itself causes the death of the baby. If someone knows better, please correct me!
Hope this helps.
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Its all very well …
Its all very well to say wait, but what after that and miracles are the exception so cant be applied to everyone
Flagged for …
Flagged for dangerous acts.
Talking women into potential suicide at an emotional time is utterly irresponsible.
Let me also inform …
Let me also inform you that ectopic pregnancies mean OUT OF THE UTERUS. They are not subject only to being in the fallopian tube, they can be abdominal, ovarian, pelvic. The fact is that 90% happen in the fallopian tube, 70% in the itsmus of the fallopian tube.
Your talking about an abdominal ectopic pregnancy (only occurring 0.8% of the time). And that case in particular is one out of several million that was successful. Chances are, women will not have it abdominal, nor asymptomatic.
First off, the …
First off, the chemicals (Methotrexate, Misoprostol etc.) don’t cause alarming side effects. They are monitored because an Ectopic Pregnancy is very dangerous.
Second, WAITING IT OFF IS NEVER AN OPTION! If the pregnancy is in the fallopian tube, it will burst the tube, send the mother into an emergency surgery due to hemorrhage, and loose the baby anyway, and possibly loose her life in the process.
Third, surgery is almost only used when what I describe above has already happened.
LOL @ the …
LOL @ the background music. This was like a political attack ad or something. The emotional delivery, the somber music, hahaha.
I’m prolife, but I …
I’m prolife, but I think that in a case like an ectopic pregnancy that unfortunately an abortion does need to be preformed. I am very sorry for your loss, if I was faced with that, it would be a very hard thing for me to deal with. god bless.
Guys this guy is …
Guys this guy is legit. I say we just wait it out and wait for a miracle to happen. In fact while we are at it lets sit here and wait for manna to fall from the sky.
The fetus wasn’t …
The fetus wasn’t alive to begin with…
Hmmmm I like the …
Hmmmm I like the two abortion methods a lot more than the “waiting it out” method…
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cue soft gentle music
There is no way you …
There is no way you are operating with a brain. You are a idiot.
Geerup, you are out …
Geerup, you are out of your mind.
“God: has aborted …
“God: has aborted more babies than ANY MAN. Let me guess… Christians think the “Devil” did it.
Lovely sure let men …
Lovely sure let men JUDGE the health of a female. Why not after all women are cattle right?
If that is how you think and belief…
Well ..be happy I try to be a peaceful and loving person.
I love how men tell …
I love how men tell women what to do with their babies… Maybe if you felt the pain of an Ectopic Pregnancy you would think different. I lost a child to this and HOW DARE and Christian tool judge me! If we didn’t abort I would have lost my wife and baby. Thanks to the abortion… I still have my wife!
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Watch my video.
This is ridiculous.
Do not encourage people to kill themselves over an ectopic pregnancy. It is the leading cause of death in maternal deaths during pregnancy.
god willed it!
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god willed it!
that bast…
I hear some people …
I hear some people on here talking about it like it’s only an egg, it’s only an egg just abort it. What if that egg was your child, would you speak just as easily and laid back about it? Then you are not worthy of being a parent, because you are clearly suffering from some kind of psychotic disorder. Abortion could be needed in some cases, but it’s not something to talk about it so lightly and easily. The trauma after an abortion stays with mothers their whole lives…..
Let’s take a …
Let’s take a hypothetical scenario, ok? What if during your waiting, the fallopian tube bursts and the mother and baby die? What would you say then?
great answer geerup
great answer geerup
It’s an egg. It’s …
It’s an egg. It’s not a child. Abort it.
This is a very …
This is a very difficult problem to face. On the cover it sounds as if there was not immediate or life threatens trouble would seem to wait a bit and see would be ok. But to just remove or abort immediately seems extreme. So without having to face this directly I would say I agree too wait a bit would be in order. But this is something I or anybody would despair to undergo
It still amazes me …
It still amazes me at how people pretend that abortion isn’t a form of murder. It’s ending a life, a being of potential, without such a measure being warranted. God wills pregnancy to happen to a specific person with a specific child, He doesn’t screw up. Prayer and hope are far better alternatives to murder, or should I say abortion.
Ectopic pregnancies …
Ectopic pregnancies can be very painful and cause internal bleeding. I am a pro lifer and do not condone abortion for birth control, or economic reasons, or whatever else, but my friend had an ectopic pregnancy and she became enemic, kept passing out, was in excruciating pain. I do agree that waiting it out is the best idea. I do believe that this is one of the FEW and RARE exceptions to the rule. If abortions were only done in life threatening situations, 99% of abortions wouldnt happen.
well said
well said